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Message #13919



To: alt-beam@yahoogroups.com
From: Eric Seale Eric.Seale@pobox.com
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:15:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [alt-beam] Digest Number 104


>From: Your Friendly Hogfather
>Subject: Truth or Dare
>
>...It is kind of like Bill Carlin's set of jokes about the airline industry
>and the phrases they use. "Near-miss", he says, "is total bullsh*t A
>near-miss is a hit!

Actually, it's *George* Carlin, and yes, the skit's a hoot!

>These robots aren't avoiding obstacles. They are plowing right into them
>with their touch sensors.

Some of us prefer to think of it as gently caressing the obstacles
with touch sensors. See? Your perspective makes all the difference.

>Oh well -- I guess it is a question of degree, however. If you were using
>some kind of IR system instead, you'd have to take into account photon
>pressure: after all, you are throwing out that IR energy: it HITS something
>and you get a signal as a result: what can I say?

Yep, if you want to be fussy, you're touching the obstacle with
SOMETHING physical -- whether a beam of photons or a wire whisker.
From a practical, "hobby robotics" standpoint, whiskers are cheaper.

>Nearly the entire
>industry would consider _that_ to be non-contact, but to the heretical
>purist (oh dear, I appear to be one. sigh.) you don't get to observe
>anything without modifying it. Hitting it, as it were.

Hmmm... Shades of Heisenberg, I think -- but then, I'm not sure.

Eric

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13920 Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:24:12 -0000 BEAM sound maker alt-beam@yahoogroups.com "sash_wan_pepa_corn" hi

im after making my photvore make noise.
is this posible? if it is could some one explain to me how?

i have only just started this type of thing, infact this is my first
experiance with electronics at all. my photovore is is made from
chiu's tutorial, for that i thank him.



thank you in advance for any help any one offers me

sash

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