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Message #13569



To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: Evan Dudzik evandude@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: photopopper


the touch sensors go in series with 680K resistors and
they both go in parallel with the .22 uf capacitors.
heres the idea:
/ <<-touch sensor
+-O O--/\/\/\--+ <<-resistor
| |
---+------||-------+---
capacitor^^^

most touch sensor tutorials include the resistor
inside the sensor, so just attach the two leads to
either side of the capacitor, dont worry about
polarity.

some photopopper circuit diagrams have the touch
sensors in them, some dont.


hope this helps.


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13570 Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT) i swear the circuit's correct!!! beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Evan Dudzik please help save my walker from going to a better (?)
place (the world of SALVAGE) by helping me out here...

what are possible things that could make ALL the
outputs of a microcore be HIGH at once, regardless of
how hard i try to introduce processes into it? i put
in a PIC (pulse introduction circuit) and pushed the
button a few (hundred) times, but all the outputs just
stayed high all the time. the only reason i can see
is maybe the 74HCT14 is static fried. I went over and
found i had attached a .22 uf capacitor to pin 14
instead of pin 13, so it wasnt working, but i switched
it and it still dont work. i checked EVERYTHING over
multiple times and it still is screwed up. whats
wrong with it? im gonna pick up a new chip tonight
and try it, but let me know what i can do to fix my
4nv microcore!!! (it is for my first 2 motor walker)


thx!

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13571 Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:21:08 -0700 Re: A reply to Zoz ... and a challenge for advanced/bored BEAMers. beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Bruce Robinson "Phillip A. Ryals" wrote:
>
> Let me tell you the first thing that came to mind, and see if I'm
> breaking the rules.

What rules :)

> My thought: a porcupine.
>
> Make your normal bot with whatever behavior, and add on 10 or 15
> 'needles' around and on top of the body. ...
> ... Also, if the 'needles' were actually sharp, they could be
> looked at as a form of defense against predators.

I DID say "no scalpels or lethal voltages", but the goal is still
survival. Here is a bit of philosophy for you. There seems to be a
conflict between Asimov's first law of robotics and Tilden's first law
of robotics.

Asimov: "A robot must not injure a human being, or, through
inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." (1)

Tilden: "A machine must protect its existence." (2)

However, consider the possible consequences in our society of turning
loose a robot capable of seriously injuring a human (or a pet) as a
means of self defense. There is a good chance that such a robot would be
dismantled or destroyed shortly after protecting itself, either by the
injured party, by law enforcement officers, or at the direction of the
courts. There's also a good chance that the builder/owner would suffer
legal and financial consequences.

Really, Asimov's first law is a subset of Tilden's first law, at least
in our present society.

> So is my method too mechanical? Were you wanting someone to actually use
> proximity alarms and such?

Nope. Improve the chances of survival. Think of survival as long-term,
though. Sticking a 6 inch needle through Aunt Nellie's foot may save the
robot from getting crunched at the moment, but will probably not promote
long term survival :)

Your comment on "rules" leads me to wonder, is this a candidate for a
contest? Dare I even suggest one? Target completion date: June, 2001?

Bruce

References:

1) Handbook of Robotics, 56th edition, 2058 AD.*
2) Living Machines, B. Hasslacher & M. W. Tilden, 1994 AD.

* As referenced in "I, Robot", I. Asimov, 1950 AD.



13572 Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Re: Solar powered pendulumn project beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Jeffrey D Spears Oh yeah? Then what color was his hair?


ok..jef

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 BUDSCOTT@aol.com wrote:

> gallileo, i did a report on him in grade school. Man was i a little nerd!
>
> -Spencer
>
> <http://www.botic.com/users/beamstop>
>
> not a robot scientist
> not a college major
> not a grad student
> not a professor
> not a very organized person
> just Spencer (isn't that impressive enough?)
>


Jeffrey D. Spears
University of Michigan
College of Engineering

``Double-E, can't spell gEEk without it!''
-Captain Gerald M. Bloomfield II, USMC
(my brother)

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