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Message #12245
To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: BUDSCOTT@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:11:47 EST
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: miniball idea
ever see those cool wiggle ball things that had the ofset motor that would
make the ball look like it was moving on its own, that be kinda what its like
but with direction, something tells me you might find some difficulties doing
that though.
-Spencer
12246 Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:15:03 -0800 [alt-beam] Re: Aesthetics beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Laura Malinowski Laura/Rob Malinowski The machine you are talking about might be made by Kroy. When I was a
"suit" our office had a Kroy machine and a transfer machine for metallic
foils. The foils are probably available through a drafting or graphics
supply house. You may be able to "iron on" your circuits. If I remember
correctly first run a Xerox of the graphics and then run them through the
machine with the foil on top and the paper would pop out with metallic
lettering. The machine uses a heat transfer system so an iron on circuit is
not out of the question. The only problem I see is how to adhere your
components to it ince heat could potentially melt the foil or backing.
Maybe an epoxy mixed with a high copper powder content or something of the
sort.
I like the leafing. I can see problems caused by cracks in the leaf and
the sizing insulating these cracks. Some hobby stores sell a much thicker
leafing material that I am going to try. I am hoping after burnishing the
leaf that there will be enough contact.
Worth a shot
Rob M.
Justin wrote:
> >I am seeking something flexible... just think of a folded
> >paper/plastic bot that uses it's own body shell as the PC...
>
> First off, I'd have to say that I'm thinking gold/copper/silver-leafing
> is the way to go. Check out a good handcraft store - there is a huge
> range of leafing stuff availible. It's cheap, quick, and (reasonably)
> easy. If you take the time to experiment, you can probably also get it
> to work on designs fresh out of an inkjet - that would _rock_ and I'm
> definitely going to look into it :-)
>
> Second point: I did a degree in typographic design, and one thing that
> laser printers couldn't do (ok, one thing out of a billizion things that
> they can't do) is foil-stamping. (When they want a metalic or
> hologramatic "ink", they actually stamp foil onto the paper). Anyway,
> lacking a foil-stamp printing press there was a machine, bit like a
> heated rolling-pin in a box that I can't remember the name of damnit!
> You print out your foil design out via the laser printer, add a plastic
> sheet (has the foil attached on one side), and run them through the
> machine, and out comes your design in gold (or whatever). Flexible,
> durable, etc. The only cost was the plastic/foil sheet, around NZ$17
> (US$9) for something about 25x40cm? (Long time ago, my memory fades).
> The sheets could be reused - the sections where the foil had been
> grafted onto the paper would have no foil on them (duh) but the
> remaining foil is perfectly usable.
>
> Anyway, as I noted, foil-stamping is a fundamental part of the print
> industry. IOW, there are ways to do it, and there are ways to do it very
> cheaply. Ask at some design schools, or find a budget print shop that
> usually does small runs (eg business cards) - in other words, any place
> that would have a use for foil-stamping, but not have a multi-million
> dollar stamping press. Talk to design supplies shops (eg the place you
> would the sheets from) Ask around. The biggest problem might be that
> this technique might be largely obsolete, but there will still be people
> using it. My memory has faded, but it wouldn't surprise me if in the
> final runs, a fixitive is normal used over the foil to prevent it
> wearing through with handling, thus insulating it. We don't want that
> :-)
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