Alt-BEAM Archive
Message #11180
To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: Bumper314@aol.com
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:51:09 EST
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Si vs. Sunceram
In a message dated 2/29/00 6:25:04 PM Mountain Standard Time,
mikekulesza@hotmail.com writes:
> I only saw those small cells at radio shack, that give 300 mA @ .55V. Break
> that into say..... hmmm.... 8 pieces, connect in series, and you get 37.5
mA
>
> @ 4.4 V. Thats seems ALOT better than any sunceram. And the overall size
is
> smaller too. And also better looking. Now I use suncerams myself, and know
> that they are nice. But why do the silicon cells apparently "suck"? Here,
in
>
> theory they're way better than sunceram. So are suncerams really better in
> practice, but worse in theory? hmmmmm....
Save exact area as the larger sunceram I believe. That puts out 5.5v at how
many mA?
Steve
11181 Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:12:06 -0800 (PST) [alt-beam] walker leg attachment beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Travis D." Just out of curiousity, where do people generally buy
the terminal blocks to attach the walker legs to the
motor shafts (part #?)...how does one remove
individual terminal blocks from a series of them, or
do you just purchase individual ones?
Also, in a master-slave bicore, is the pulse supposed
to follow the other one or follow 180 degrees out of
sync for the best walking gate? Thanks,
Travis
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11182 Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:11:48 -0600 [alt-beam] Re: mini walker beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Richard Piotter Ok! Sounds good. Unfortunately, the wait is the hardest part. I don't
get cash for another 2 weeks, and will then still have to wait for a
Solarbotics order. I'll have to dig around and see if I have any
materials stored up that I don't realize I have. Still have to wait for
the coils anyway.
Ben Hitchcock wrote:
>
> Here's an idea:
>
> You don't need a SE!
> Just attach the 1381 to power and ground, andconnect the output of the
> 1381 to the input of the microcore via a normal microcore cap. The 1381
> gets to its switch-on voltage, introduces a process, and bang off it goes.
> No need to enable or disable the 240. And have the process fall of f the
> end of the core - four neurons in a chain. This means that you get to
> gang two gates together per coil lead - two gates ganged up would give you
> enough juice to drive the walker, methinks. And the nice thing about this
> is that you only need one chip, one 1381, four caps and resistors, plus
> your coils and solar panel and storage cap and that's it!
>
> Too easy.
>
> Ben
>
> > I was thinking about using a microcore instead of a master slave bicore.
> > Either way, can pulses be stopped and resumed from their last position?
> > I'm wondering if an Nv chain that is initiated by the SE firing would
> > work. Switch the source to a different coil and polarity on each of 4
> > steps, and then fall off the end. Allow the SE to charge to full. It'd
> > store enough power for a complete step cycle. If there were enough
> > power, I assume the SE could continuously fire the start of the Nv
> > chain, till light levels drop and it would then rely on firing
> > intermittently, till it looses it's charge again.
> >
> > Has anyone made such a circuit before???
> >
> > Would the Chloroplast be suitable for this purpose, and how can I get a
> > single pulse out of it, with a second sustained pulse going to the
> > driver (I suppose 2 chips would be acceptable, if necessary). If the
> > driver powers the coils, then would it be possible to attach it to the
> > steady voltage output of the Chloroplast SE and the pulse to the
> > trigger, and have a very high dropout level, so it shuts down right
> > away, waiting for the next charge before refiring???
> >
> >
> > Ben Hitchcock wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > What
> > > > would be best? I thought of an SE type system with a timed trigger. Is
> > > > there a way to create an SE that triggers different pulse outputs in
> > > > chain? I'll play with circuits. That's what we're here for anyway. New designs!
> > >
> > > How about using a shift register? Attach the SE to an enable pin on your
> > > motor driver (74xx240) and also to the clock pin on the shift register.
> > > You'll also need to attach the fourth (or is it fifth?) pin of the shift
> > > register to the data in
> > > pin, and somehow start a pulse when there aren't any in the stream...
> > > you'd need four diodes (one from each gate on the shift register) a
> > > resistor and an inverter to create a pulse if none existed in the chain.
> > >
> > > Maybe a shift register isn't such a good idea after all... 2 IC's instead
> > > of one... Perhaps ye olde microcore could be adapted to do it.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Hmm maybe the bot won't be able to steer using this setup. no matter, it
> > > will look pretty cool.
> > >
> > > Ben
> >
> > --
> >
> >
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11183 Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:28:05 +1300 [alt-beam] 1381 trigger "Andrew Hooper" Is there an equivalent circut that can be made up from
transistors and can be used in place of the 1381?
maybe even one that can be altered to different voltages
using a trimpot?
Regards
Andrew
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