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Message #10907
To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: Laura Malinowski Laura/Rob Malinowski malstudios@tradenet.net
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:54:02 -0800
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Eloquence
The art part, I was only refering to myself. But as an ex-engineer you may not
have art in mind but that is part of it. For one co. that I worked for I had to
design and tape a pwb that had almost two thousand parts. You can't tell me
that this is not an art. Of course things were modified and tweaked "shave
ounces...". But that's part of engineering. I combined all the things I could,
and minimized everything (I actually enjoyed sitting over a light table and
taping traces and pads). Like I said elegant doesn't mean ornate. That board
did turn out beautiful with rows of parts lined up in a sequence to conserve
space and ground planes trimmed to prevent the board from becoming a big
capacitor (an rf amplifier board).
Elegance goes much deeper than just the visible surfaces of a project.
When I was in school I had a teacher tell me that eng. was largely about
elegant solutions. Each job was a new problem and our job was to find the
simplest solution within specific parameters. The elegance was in the was in
the solution. Some solutions are overly complex some are simple, some work
sometimes, some work very smoothly....
You seem to disagree, thats fine. In the grand scheme of life it really
doesn't matter. When my website is finished I'll post some of my work, and I
welcome your comments about eloquence and elegance. I know I am setting myself
up for major abuse with that invite,but we don't all like everything.
R.M.
quote of the day:
If this where rocket science there would be a lot of dead astronauts littering
the place.
Timothy Flytch wrote:
> No you mistake my meaning... I design aircraft parts... not art... thou some
> do have an aesthetic look about them... they are not designed with art in
> mind, at all!!! In aircraft you shave ounces to save pounds... every little
> bit helps... why make something do one job when it can do two?? Three is
> even better :)
> But I must say that I totally disagree with design for elegance... want
> that? then chose fashion... not engineering...
> Timothy...
>
> >My artwork is this way, but I am trying to get over it. This is not because
> >I
> >don't like it, more so because I want to explore the other side of the coin
> >for a while.
> >I also like the idea of elegance added to this. They can compliment each
> >other very well when used properly. By elegance I mean proportions. A
> >single
> >curve can be very elegant with the proper proportions. Things that are to
> >ornate can stop being elegant very easily and just become overpriced. A
> >whisper can be more effective than a scream when no one will listen.
> >R.M.
> >
> >Quote of the day:
> > Never attack a mountain head on - You will only hurt your head.
> >
> >Timothy Flytch wrote:
> >
> > > >This sounds zen like, or the minimalist approach in art. Is this sort
> >of,
> > > >almost, kinda, might be what you are describing.
> > > >R.M.
> > >
> > > It is... very much so... I am after all a minimalist by choice... :)
> > > Timothy...
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10908 Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:56:12 -0800 [alt-beam] Re: Zenbot beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Laura Malinowski Laura/Rob Malinowski Cool idea.
R.M.
JVernonM@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 2/25/00 7:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> malstudios@tradenet.net writes:
>
> > This sounds zen like, or the minimalist approach in art. Is this sort of,
> > almost, kinda, might be what you are describing.
> > R.M.
> This made me think of an idea I had, well, it was my wife actually. I thought
> I would throw it out since the list has been so slow lately :). How about a
> Unicore that lives in a sand box. It pulls a small rake behind it and avoids
> 2 or 3 various sized smooth rocks in the center of the sand. The tiny rake
> scratches out rows of parallel lines as the bot travels randomly around the
> box. A Zen Garden bot! An ever changing pattern of rows and lines
> circumnavigating the entire surface of the sand. A Unicore roughly the size
> of Scarlet with wide wheels could be placed in a Zen garden roughly the size
> of 2'x3' with ornamental rocks in the center. Patterns could be influenced by
> light whether natural or artificial. Zen gardens are traditionally places of
> meditation and reflection. A small bot making endlessly different patterns
> would be a nice touch.
>
> See ya,
> Jim
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/8281/beamart.html
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