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Message #10887
To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: "Timothy Flytch" flytch@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:51:41 PST
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Eloquence
True it can apply to speech but also to women... and BOTS :)
>Does that not refer to communication? IMHO, Elegance is a more appropriate
>term. Then again, we are at the crux of the problems that have plagued man
>since the dawn of time. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and
>they think everybody else's stinks!
>
>(Pardon my lack of eloquence)
>
>Richard
>
Thanks for your support...
Timothy...
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10888 Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:03:08 PST [alt-beam] Re: Eloquence beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Timothy Flytch" No I don't mean elegance... elegant deals only with beauty... a truly
eloquent device can be ugly as sin...
Timothy...
>I like your point and agree with you........but I think the word you want
>is
>elegance eloquence is "discourse marked by force and persuasiveness."
>attrib: Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary. If you want to see elegant
>BEAM designs go to "Drops of Consciousness"
>http://www.iupui.edu/~khaupt/robots.htm
>......Thanks.....JWS.
>
>Jim Scolman
>AMS Services, Inc.
>Bothell, WA
>425-402-1000 x353
>206-910-6095
>scolmaji@amsworld.com
>Network Administrator
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Timothy Flytch [mailto:flytch@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 1:53 PM
>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>Subject: Eloquence
>
>
>I'd like to introduce a new term... An old friend and I developed it's
>definition long ago so we could quantify ideas... The term is eloquent...
>simply put there in NO true eloquent thing... but some approach it more
>than
>
>others...
>Eloquence is: utter simplicity... least material to do the job... free...
>has a unique beauty... pure in form and function... has no added non
>functioning parts...
>I liken it to going to a piano recital... I can't tell if a part was played
>perfectly but I can definitely tell when it was not...
>some of Mark T. bots have it... but most don't...
>webster says it's as...
>Main Entry: el.o.quent
>Pronunciation: -kw&nt
>Function: adjective
>Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin eloquent-,
>eloquens, from present participle of eloqui to speak out, from e- + loqui
>to
>
>speak
>Date: 14th century
>'&&
>1 : marked by forceful and fluent expression
>2 : vividly or movingly expressive or revealing
>- el.o.quent.ly adverb
>
>
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10889 Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:24:45 PST [alt-beam] Re: Eloquence beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Timothy Flytch" I did no t mean to take credit as the inventor of the term... I was just
looking at the waker made from the wal-mart motors and trimer gear
box...(which by the way I think is very eloquent) and it reminded me of my
conversations with my old boss when I was a teenager... to the best of my
knowledge I have not seen the term used with BEAM... hence I introduced
it...
My friend is a old aeronautical engineer with who I worked for, for about 6
years... and he introduced it to me... Sorry for the wrong choice of word...
(developed) But I did think it was original...
From what field did it originate???
Timothy...
>On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Timothy Flytch wrote:
>
> > I'd like to introduce a new term... An old friend and I developed it's
> > definition long ago so we could quantify ideas... The term is
>eloquent...
>
> I hate to be picky, but I'll do it anyway. This concept
>doubtlessly predates you and your friend. You should not be taking
>credit. 20+ years in technical field(s), and you and your friend never
>ran across the (existing) idea?
>
>DonP
>
>
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10890 Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:30:31 PST [alt-beam] Re: Eloquence beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Timothy Flytch" >This sounds zen like, or the minimalist approach in art. Is this sort of,
>almost, kinda, might be what you are describing.
>R.M.
It is... very much so... I am after all a minimalist by choice... :)
Timothy...
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10891 Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:45:00 -0800 [alt-beam] Re: Eloquence beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Laura Malinowski Laura/Rob Malinowski My artwork is this way, but I am trying to get over it. This is not because I
don't like it, more so because I want to explore the other side of the coin
for a while.
I also like the idea of elegance added to this. They can compliment each
other very well when used properly. By elegance I mean proportions. A single
curve can be very elegant with the proper proportions. Things that are to
ornate can stop being elegant very easily and just become overpriced. A
whisper can be more effective than a scream when no one will listen.
R.M.
Quote of the day:
Never attack a mountain head on - You will only hurt your head.
Timothy Flytch wrote:
> >This sounds zen like, or the minimalist approach in art. Is this sort of,
> >almost, kinda, might be what you are describing.
> >R.M.
>
> It is... very much so... I am after all a minimalist by choice... :)
> Timothy...
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10892 Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:05:04 -0700 [alt-beam] Re: Eloquence beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Robert Stein At 07:24 PM 2/25/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I did no t mean to take credit as the inventor of the term... I was just
>looking at the waker made from the wal-mart motors and trimer gear
>box...(which by the way I think is very eloquent) and it reminded me of my
>conversations with my old boss when I was a teenager... to the best of my
>knowledge I have not seen the term used with BEAM... hence I introduced it...
>My friend is a old aeronautical engineer with who I worked for, for about
>6 years... and he introduced it to me... Sorry for the wrong choice of
>word... (developed) But I did think it was original...
> From what field did it originate???
>Timothy...
Thanks for the compliment.
P.S. By the way, in case anyone is wondering....I should have all of the
details for all to peruse early in the week. Any preferences where I
should put it? I would do a page of my own, but I hate to take away from
my building time to make a page. Especially since I only have few bots.
Robert
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