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Message #10713



To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: Brad Guillot mach50@netzero.com
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:13:58 -0600
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: BEAM: Tendency toward miniaturization




JVernonM@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/22/00 12:02:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> davidperry@geocities.com writes:
>
> > Also, a simple silicon neural net made to achieve a goal - same as us!
> > Personality isn't magically achieved, it is the result of an immensly
> > complex neural net.
> >
> You've just disproved EVERY religious belief known to man. Not to mention,
> claravoiance, telekenisis, distant viewing, premonition, intuition, and
> prophecy.

Want to go deeper? Think about what happens when you put your finger on
the resistor of a bicore, or get too close to a small radio antenna?

These things boggle the mind...

Brad



This is something that fascinates me about robotics. Are we more
> than the sum of our parts? Or, can a machine be built that can reproduce
> every facet of what it is to be alive? To be sentient and aware of things
> greater than ones self? Will a robot one day look to the stars and wonder,
> "Is this all that I am? Is there no more?" Great stuff!
>
> See ya,
> Jim
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10714 Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:21:02 -0600 [alt-beam] Re: BEAM: Tendency toward miniaturization beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Brad Guillot

Wyzyrd1 wrote:
>
> > Well, yes I agree. But, technology in and of itself has it's roots in
> > violence. The first use of technology was simple weapons and tools to
> > simplify hunting and killing. Some of our greatest advancements come from
> the
> > military applications. And, by the way, you do realize where Mr. Tilden
> goes
>
> An interesting possibility DOES come out of this line of thought - Those of
> you old enough
> to remember the Steve Jackson game "OGRE" may remember the outcome of the
> set of tactics that were pretty much dictated by the game - "get the humans
> off the
> battlefield and let the bots slug it out". Robotics may not change human
> nature -
> we always have been and probably always will be a bunch of violent buttheads
> at heart-
> but it MAY (if we play our cards right) make our most dangerous forms of
> violence
> into something that just costs money and bots, not lives.
>
Think of the spare parts you could find after the battles were over!
That idea justs gets better and better!

Brad



> too philosophical today I guess
> Wyzyrd
> <:)}
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10715 Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:27:34 -0600 [alt-beam] Re: BEAM: Tendency toward miniaturization beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Brad Guillot

Robert Stein wrote:

>
> > Now I can understand that maybe someone who reacts to stress with say an
> > ulcer, may have children who
> >react in the same way....but when it really comes down to it, a violent
> >person TEACHES his/her children to react violently...it isn't just passed on
> >through genetics. Twin studies have proven this to be more than often true.
>


Perhaps genetics only afects the length of your fuse(or its power
rating:) and the rest is behivorial.

I'm feeling very philocipical today
brad
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10716 Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:43:14 -0800 [alt-beam] Re: Robotic philosophy (Tendency toward miniaturization) beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Laura Malinowski Laura/Rob Malinowski
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Richard,
Sorry I just can't let this slide without taking a shot.

"Oxymoron" - I don't see that as much as I see people not afraid to
think about the scope of what they are doing. I believe the term you may
looking for is "Renaissance man".

Rob M.

Richard Caudle wrote:

> Huh? Men of Science talking Philosophy? If that's not an oxymoron, I
> don't know what is! Richard ;)
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> usually something exotic.


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Richard,

 Sorry I just can't let this slide without taking a shot.

"Oxymoron" -  I don't see that as much as I see people not afraid
to think about the scope of what they are doing. I believe the term you
may looking for is "Renaissance man".

 

Rob M.

Richard Caudle wrote:


Huh? Men
of Science talking Philosophy?  If that's not an oxymoron, I don't
know what is! Richard 
;)
Chicks dig me because I
rarely wear underwear and when I do it's usually something exotic.




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10717 Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:37:37 -0600 [alt-beam] Re: Steering an Aquabot. beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Tod Dow Ok, I'll bite. Where do I get a Smart Head? Is that the one at Adaptobotics?
It' looks pretty cool. I could probably use one on the desktop as well.



JVernonM@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/21/00 11:56:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, todman@icon.net
> writes: As for the steering method, the obvious choice
> seems to be Wilf's Power Smart Head. Hook a very efficient gearmotor to the
> rudder and place the eyes on the front of the bot similar to a hammerhead
> shark. This will separate the eyes enough for a good effect. When the bot
> fires the main prop produces forward thrust, the head circuit turns the
> rudder left or right as needed. The gravy part of the Smart Head is that no
> power is drawn if the head is locked on to the light source and the bot goes
> straight. Add a couple of Hydrofoils to the sides of the bot to induce
> shallow diving and you're all set. I'll be building this design soon
> (Proteus2), but if you get one working first, I'd love to see it.
>
> See ya,
> Jim
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> ICQ# 55657870

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