Alt-BEAM Archive
Message #10685
To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: JVernonM@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:09:20 EST
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Robotic philosophy
In a message dated 2/22/00 4:16:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, botdoc@yahoo.com
writes:
> small, entertaining zombie bots,
I love it. No, I don't see bots taking over the world either. Gort. Klattu
barada nikto! No, I think the homo superior (Borg?) idea is a reasonable one.
Starting with artificial limbs and such and the optimization of time and info
gathering. If you guys really want to know, I see robots as pets, personal
assistants and laborers. I watched to many men die from black lung in the
coal mines. A labor force of bots working in hazardous environments isn't
such a bad idea. I think a viable market for robotic pets is very near. The
popularity of AIBO is just the beginning. There's also that greed thing that
will in some ways promote robotics research. When personal companions and
assistants become possible, everyone will just have to get the latest,
fastest, sexiest, and most elaborate model. Keeping up with Jounces. Slavery
of machines who actually like to be slaves. But, we are getting way off topic
here. I feel the heat of Mark D's gaze upon my back :).
See ya,
Jim
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10686 Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:12:48 -0800 (PST) [alt-beam] Re: Robotic philosophy (Tendency toward miniaturization) beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Daniel Grace > A concept defined by Michael Hammer as a "rhetorical
> answer". We find
> the answer to a question, without knowing which
> question we are
> answering. Then we have to figure out what question
> we should have
> asked.
With all the book mentioning, and the way you phrased
this answer, I'm surprised you don't mention The
Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy "Trilogy" by Douglas
Adams.
42 Baby!
~Daniel
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10687 Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:22:18 PST [alt-beam] Re: BEAM: Tendency toward miniaturization beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Timothy Flytch" >Timothy Flytch wrote:
> >
> > Bruce,
> > I like your points on scaling ... I can also see a deferent possible
> > future, or at least a faction... That is shoe box sized robots... small
> > enough to stay out of your way but big enough to do real yard work... to
> > walk over grass you need a bot that can take 3-5 inch steps and be big
> > enough to be able to pick up a leaf and do something with it... Tall
>enough
> > to reach the tops of the grass with enough span so as to be stable so
>that
> > as it cuts, the cuts are all at the same relative height... Big enough
>to
> > sweep the kitchen but small enough to fit under the counters where it
>seeks
> > refuge when you enter...
>
>I once posted the following link about such a bot. It happens to be
>self sufficient & does useful yard work. Size is about right where you
>want it. Check it out.
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_503000/503149.stm
>
>Dilip
Very cool...
I remember reading about this when it first came out... I look forward to
the day when there is a similar bot in every yard :)
Timothy...
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10688 Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:25:22 -0800 [alt-beam] Re: Ah! The Fallacies of BEAM......solar walker..... "Dennison Bertram" Here's one of the more interesting things about BEAM, the Solar Walker.
Solar walkers are indeed something that is relatively easy to build, but in
actuality, we can't build very competent solarwalkers.(although some people
have!) The reason? When we try to emulate Mark T's bot's the place were we
fall short is in out motors. Mark T has gearheads that cost hundreds EACH.
One of his walkers would be worth over three hundred in motor-age alone.
Regardless of how much we scavange around, it's going to be very hard for
you to emulate the effeciencies possible from the motors that he uses to
demo his bots.
dennison
> Hi, I am busy checking all of the tutorials and FAQs......I want to
> build a solar walker......is it as simple as finding a good circuit and
> substituting a suitable solar cell for the battery?..........is it the
> microcore that can drive motors directly without a seperate motor driver
> circuit?.....thanks.....JWS.
>
>
>
> Jim Scolman
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