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Message #09374



To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: "stuart alp" kidney90@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:22:40 MST
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: motor


try going to the web site sloarbotics.com they have alot of stuff including
pager motors


>From: "Stephane Achkar"
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>Subject: motor
>Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:16:09 EST
>
>thanx to all who responded to my plea for help.
>
>now, i was wondering where i could get pager motors and for about what
>price.
>
>and is there anyone here from Canada who knows of more local supplies?
>
>thanks in advance
>
>stephane
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9375 Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:26:28 -0500 [alt-beam] Re: Pertaining to the Hextile things. You should really make them beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Sathe Dilip"
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Another alternative could be a technique I have seen used in some old
radio designs. The attached gif shows the general idea. You create
such pads with all the possible connections brought opposite each
other. Then it's very easy to bridge the required path with a solder
bridge (keep the gaps small enough). These are also easy to open again
by using a soldering iron & an old tooth brush (melt & brush off - being
careful to brush it away from you & other important things). Sometimes
they open up with surface tension itself when you touch the bridge.

Dilip
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David Perry wrote:
SNIP
>
> >trace cuts are easier to work with. they can be resoldered easy. you
> >have it configured by default to be an Nv, and by cutting the existing
> >traces and soldering the pre opened pads. Desoldering such tiny pads is
> >more dificult than cutting a trace. Believe me, I know!
>
> I've never had any problems doing this with a desoldering pump. It just
> seems to me that cutting the trace isn't a very elegant solution.

SNIP
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Pl. remove *s from the e-mail address to reply

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9376 Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:01:43 -0600 [alt-beam] Re: Score: BEAM 3 - Railroader 4 beam@sgiblab.sgi.com ".." At 02:05 PM 1/19/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Lads, I realize the questions I'm about to ask have probably been
flogged to death, but how much current does one of those Namiki pager
motors draw?
>Their website has virtually no specification information.
http://www.namiki.co.jp/guide-e.htm
>I was also browsing around the world to see what I could learn about
different ICs and how they might be useful in BEAM. Lo and behold, I
discovered the BA6212 on Rohms site here:
http://www.rohm.com/products/databook/standard/pdf/ba6212.pdf
>In brief, its a 20pin DIP that has 8 internal circuits and a strobe pin,
can run up to 400ma loads, inputs can directly connect to CMOS, not sure
about internal resistance. The main application is for driving LEDs,
>motors, or relays.
>This part may be hard to come by as Digikey and Future-Active do not have
them (haven't searched much further)
>I'm not great with how electrical parts work together (I'm relearning and
have basic knowledge). Am I barking up a dead tree here?
>About my subject line --> I called around today to all the (5) pager
companies here in Saskatoon, and only one actually did repairs inhouse..
the rest all sent them away (bummer). Anyway, the only service guy I
talked to was super nice and offered to go thru his junk box and retrieve a
few pager motors for me. I got 3, the model railroading guy he considered
giving them to didn't get any, muahhahah! WOW, I just got off the phone
with him and he is willing to order me some at his cost (dancing a jig)..
so I'm ordering 20. I will not disclose how much they are (to protect the
interest of others), but lets just say that I "lucked out" :)
>--
>Kelly Petriew
>Systems Support Analyst
>The StarPhoenix
>204 5th Avenue North
>Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
>Canada
>S7K 2P1
>306-664-8250 extension 569

Kelly, check-out Model Railroad at: http://rr-vs.informatik.uni-ulm.de/rr/
can you do this with robot's?
douglas



9377 Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:51:48 +1300 [alt-beam] Re: plans "Seamus Allan" Have a look at www.beam-online.com at the circuits page, for photovores and
solarengines. Most other BEAM websites have circuits pages too.


9378 Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:03:36 -0600 [alt-beam] Re: Pertaining to the Hextile things. You should really make them beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Richard Piotter That's like what I put on my diagram I sent earlier showing a possible
hextile layout.

Sathe Dilip wrote:
>
> Another alternative could be a technique I have seen used in some old
> radio designs. The attached gif shows the general idea. You create
> such pads with all the possible connections brought opposite each
> other. Then it's very easy to bridge the required path with a solder
> bridge (keep the gaps small enough). These are also easy to open again
> by using a soldering iron & an old tooth brush (melt & brush off - being
> careful to brush it away from you & other important things). Sometimes
> they open up with surface tension itself when you touch the bridge.
>
> Dilip
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> David Perry wrote:
> SNIP
> >
> > >trace cuts are easier to work with. they can be resoldered easy. you
> > >have it configured by default to be an Nv, and by cutting the existing
> > >traces and soldering the pre opened pads. Desoldering such tiny pads is
> > >more dificult than cutting a trace. Believe me, I know!
> >
> > I've never had any problems doing this with a desoldering pump. It just
> > seems to me that cutting the trace isn't a very elegant solution.
>
> SNIP
> --
> Pl. remove *s from the e-mail address to reply
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]

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9379 Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:43:02 -0500 [alt-beam] Re: Pertaining to the Hextile things. You should really make them beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Sathe Dilip" Didn't mean to take away your credit. I must have missed it. I was
responding to the discussion about cutting & resoldering tracks and the
non availability of desoldering pumps with some BEAMers.

Dilip
---------------------------------

Richard Piotter wrote:
>
> That's like what I put on my diagram I sent earlier showing a possible
> hextile layout.
>
> Sathe Dilip wrote:
> >
> > Another alternative could be a technique I have seen used in some old
> > radio designs. The attached gif shows the general idea. You create
> > such pads with all the possible connections brought opposite each
> > other. Then it's very easy to bridge the required path with a solder
> > bridge (keep the gaps small enough). These are also easy to open again
> > by using a soldering iron & an old tooth brush (melt & brush off - being
> > careful to brush it away from you & other important things). Sometimes
> > they open up with surface tension itself when you touch the bridge.
> >
> > Dilip
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > David Perry wrote:
> > SNIP
> > >
> > > >trace cuts are easier to work with. they can be resoldered easy. you
> > > >have it configured by default to be an Nv, and by cutting the existing
> > > >traces and soldering the pre opened pads. Desoldering such tiny pads is
> > > >more dificult than cutting a trace. Believe me, I know!
> > >
> > > I've never had any problems doing this with a desoldering pump. It just
> > > seems to me that cutting the trace isn't a very elegant solution.
> >
> > SNIP
> > --
> > Pl. remove *s from the e-mail address to reply
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [Image]
SNIP



9380 Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:47:19 EST [alt-beam] quebec beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Stephane Achkar" anyone here from quebec?
or that knows where to get supplies in the area?

Stephane Achkar
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9381 Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:20:01 -0600 [alt-beam] Re: Pertaining to the Hextile things. You should really make them beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Richard Piotter I usualy use a wire or sharp point and run it accross the molten solder.
Usualy, it breaks the tension between the blob and separates it. Works well!

Sathe Dilip wrote:
>
> Didn't mean to take away your credit. I must have missed it. I was
> responding to the discussion about cutting & resoldering tracks and the
> non availability of desoldering pumps with some BEAMers.
>
> Dilip
> ---------------------------------
>
> Richard Piotter wrote:
> >
> > That's like what I put on my diagram I sent earlier showing a possible
> > hextile layout.
> >
> > Sathe Dilip wrote:
> > >
> > > Another alternative could be a technique I have seen used in some old
> > > radio designs. The attached gif shows the general idea. You create
> > > such pads with all the possible connections brought opposite each
> > > other. Then it's very easy to bridge the required path with a solder
> > > bridge (keep the gaps small enough). These are also easy to open again
> > > by using a soldering iron & an old tooth brush (melt & brush off - being
> > > careful to brush it away from you & other important things). Sometimes
> > > they open up with surface tension itself when you touch the bridge.
> > >
> > > Dilip
> > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > David Perry wrote:
> > > SNIP
> > > >
> > > > >trace cuts are easier to work with. they can be resoldered easy. you
> > > > >have it configured by default to be an Nv, and by cutting the existing
> > > > >traces and soldering the pre opened pads. Desoldering such tiny pads is
> > > > >more dificult than cutting a trace. Believe me, I know!
> > > >
> > > > I've never had any problems doing this with a desoldering pump. It just
> > > > seems to me that cutting the trace isn't a very elegant solution.
> > >
> > > SNIP
> > > --
> > > Pl. remove *s from the e-mail address to reply
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > [Image]
> SNIP

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9382 Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:32:55 +1100 [alt-beam] Re: powersmart head beam@sgiblab.sgi.com Elmo All the PSH circuit to date still have problems. Wilfs Version 2 (is is
that version 2A) circuit with the extra LEDs seems the bext (but i
haven't built it). I have a very simplified version of Wilfs circuit
1x74HC240 and only 2xResistors and 2xCapacitors. I am still debugging
the circuit but it looks like it will be a rather stable and
reproducable version.....just gimme a couple more days to finalise my
design. Tutorial and circuit explanation coming soon.....

Sparky managed to get the original circuit from Darrell Johnson going.


Elmo

> adam-m wrote:
>
> Sorry to bring this up again, but can somone please tell me the vinal
> virdict on the powersmart head circuit?
>
> I built the origional one a while back and i could not get it to go...
>
> I'm looking for the 1 DOF solar motor driver with low draw and the
> flashing LED for lock on.
>
> THanks for any info
>
> /Adam

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