Alt-BEAM Archive
Message #09287
To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: jester96beam@iname.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:21:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: does anyone know where those single inverters can be found?
Crap. I was waiting for a posting to the list or a news update on your site :-(
Oh well. Can you tell me who one and which robot it was?
Chris
---- you wrote:
> The contest has been completed, judged and buried 6 feet under.
>
> The videos and pictures all went down when the beamzine.com server was taken off
> line. Blame should be put on me for taking so long to wrap things up.
>
> Chiu
>
> jester96beam@iname.com wrote:
> >
> > Hey Chiu. It's good to know you're still alive.
> >
> > Are you planning on judging the last contest anytime soon? Istill very interested to see all the contestants (the robots, that is - I don't care about the people! ;-)
> >
> > Chris
>
>
> --
> Chiu-Yuan Fang
> chiumanfu@home.com
> ICQ=5614919
> http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/6897/beam2.html
>
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9288 Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:12:19 -0500 [alt-beam] Pertaining to the Hextile things. You should really make them hextiles and not DIP "Dennison Bertram"
I know what I'm about to say is going to be really unpopular, but I really
think that the project should stick to Hextiles and not the construction of
DIP. Why?I'll agree, DIP would make it a little easier to Breadboard
projects. Very true. But what about when you actually build your bot? DIP
becomes a hassle. The wiring nessesary will become a rat's nest (much like
current microcores!) and unlike the Hextiles, the DIPS provide no structural
support to speak of. Hextiles aren't just prototype boards, they are also
structural elements. Their design lends themselves to quick construction of
Robots, which is what we want. On breadboards, you may just have to stick
with the inconvinience of doing it the old fashion way. However don't give
up hope, die-hard-DIPer's. If you've checked the DigiKey catalog recently
(although I haven't) look up something called SurfBoards. They are these
tiny SIP devices, that plug into breadboards, etc, (look much a like a basic
Stamp) and enable you to solder Surface mount components directly to the
surface of the SIP board, so that you can prototype with them easilly. This
is exactly what you've been talking about. And they have a nice variaty. I
don't think however, that hextiles can really be beat. I heard someone to
refer to it as the "old model" as though it were outdated. I assure you that
even Mark T's earlier hextiles are still far superior to any idea's and
designs's we have floating around here. Mark T has some seriously
highquality work going on with his hextiles, and his designs can't be beat.
Hextiles are really the best alternative here. They should be cheap, and
basic. While this is a little more of a hassle for some BEAMERS, It's the
only way to acheive what we are really after. I do admit I like the idea of
BEAM 'leg-os' but for actually construction purposes, the hextile can't be
beat!
my two cents.
dennison
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