Alt-BEAM Archive

Message #08205



To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: "Timothy Flytcher" flytch@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:27:10 PST
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Really dumb question.


>As in, generating AC from DC? I think there's a way to convert DC to AC via
>solid-state, but I don't think
>you get the true AC waveform. If I remember right, the waves are squared
>on
>each cycle instead of being nice and smooth. Maybe they've fixed that in
>newer circuits? Hope someone else can clarify.
>

Yes, it is possible to derive a nice smooth "AC waveform" from DC using
"solid-state"... But why??? It is far cheaper and easier to derive a square
wave... More efficiently too...
Timothy...

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8206 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:49:02 PST [alt-beam] Re: BEAMjet beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Timothy Flytcher" Why compressed air??? I have found compressed gas to be very inefficient
form of energy... I would liken it to a bad spring from which only a small
return of compression energy is returned...

However!!! you have given me another idea... Has anyone ever built a
helicopter or airplane that is on one side of a balance so that when the
solarengine fires it will launch into flight??? I picture a character forker
DR-1 triplane with solar panel upper wings... sitting on a desk ... when the
engine fires it pulls the plane forward around the circle ... wings lifting
it off the runway... and making three or four turns before slowly stelling
back down again... OR... maybe a mobile hanging from the ceiling with a
small blimp on one outstretched arm and a plusher prop???

Thanks for the juice... now I don't think I will get much sleep tonight :)
Timothy...
>Proposal:
>
>How about a solarengine that runs a motor to compress air in a storage
>tank,
>and when the pressure is high enough, the valve lets go and the bot gets
>jet
>propelled, either on the ground or thourugh the air!! A photovore would
>work
>on the same basis, aexcept there would be 2 motors, running 2 air tanks.
>The
>cap on the SE would have to be quite big as to run the motor long enough to
>pump in anough air. The valve to release the air would be let go somehow,
>not sure how yet, when the SE is finished firing.
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

______________________________________________________



8207 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:47:23 CET [alt-beam] Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got the...* beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "johannes urke" ok this is spam


>From: USNAVY@pc.jaring.my
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>Subject: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got the...*
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:34:18 +0800
>
>here is the site you wanted... http://sex.interactwithme.com its the one
>that gives you free membership access (all hacked) to about 300 membership
>based sex sites.
>ps: why r u using sgiblab.sgi.com now? it doens't make sence, sorry if i
>have the wrong addy, anyway *bye*...
>

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8208 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:46:55 -0500 (EST) [alt-beam] Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got the...* beam@sgiblab.sgi.com jester96beam@iname.com Disregard that part about me being the only one on iname. When I recieved it, it said why are you on INAME now and I didn't realize that it was dfferent for everyone else. (i.e on the list it asks why the recipient is on sgiblab.sgi)
ANYWAY, I don't think his e-mail box is full. He's using BS addresses. When I recieved it on my other account, his address was different than when it was sent to the list, and probably when you guys recieved it on any other account. And now, the list has recieved it YET AGAIN, from that usnavy address.
Obviosly someone must have started it, but I think it's running on its own now, like a trojan horse (only not)

Chris

---- you wrote:
> I think that many other people also sent him emails just like yours and
> that's why his email box is full. I didn't get any info on him yet but I
> found a great resource on this at
> http://www.tmisnet.com/~strads/spamhunt/decoding.html#ResourceDetails
> I hope this helps. Whoever sent that message is just messed up. I think it
> would be better off for everyone to just block him out and forget about the
> incident.
>
> -Pete
> ======================
> http://members.xoom.com/Star_BEAM/
>
> >From: "johannes urke"
> >Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >Subject: Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got the...*
> >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:14:24 CET
> >
> >nope not that i know about.
> >i tried to send him a mail saying he`s pretty screwed up but his inbox is
> >full
> >
> >
> >>From: Senior
> >>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >>Subject: Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got the...*
> >>Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:56:22 -0700
> >>
> >>Anybody know how to get info on this guy? Whois isn't giving me anything
> >>about any of the servers the message went through. Any other tricks?
> >>This is sick.
> >>
> >>Nick.Jenvey@Jenvey.sagehost.co.uk wrote:
> >> >
> >> > here is the site you wanted... http://sex.interactwithme.com its the
> >>one
> >>that gives you free membership access (all hacked) to about 300 membership
> >>based sex sites.
> >> > ps: why r u using corp.sgi.com now? it doens't make sence, sorry if i
> >>have the wrong addy, anyway *bye*...
> >
> >______________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
> ______________________________________________________
>


8209 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:05:22 -0500 [alt-beam] Re: Really dumb question. "Dennison Bertram"
Sometimes, depending on the application you need a smooth waveform.

dennison

>As in, generating AC from DC? I think there's a way to convert DC to AC via
>solid-state, but I don't think
>you get the true AC waveform. If I remember right, the waves are squared
>on
>each cycle instead of being nice and smooth. Maybe they've fixed that in
>newer circuits? Hope someone else can clarify.
>

Yes, it is possible to derive a nice smooth "AC waveform" from DC using
"solid-state"... But why??? It is far cheaper and easier to derive a square
wave... More efficiently too...
Timothy...

______________________________________________________



8210 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:26:31 GMT [alt-beam] Re: BEAMjet beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Mike Kulesza" A solar photovoric blimp that just hangs in the air all day. Its density
would have to be equal to that of the current atmspheric pressure though for
it to stay at constant altitude.


>From: "Timothy Flytcher"
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>Subject: Re: BEAMjet
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:49:02 PST
>
>Why compressed air??? I have found compressed gas to be very inefficient
>form of energy... I would liken it to a bad spring from which only a small
>return of compression energy is returned...
>
>However!!! you have given me another idea... Has anyone ever built a
>helicopter or airplane that is on one side of a balance so that when the
>solarengine fires it will launch into flight??? I picture a character
>forker
>DR-1 triplane with solar panel upper wings... sitting on a desk ... when
>the
>engine fires it pulls the plane forward around the circle ... wings lifting
>it off the runway... and making three or four turns before slowly stelling
>back down again... OR... maybe a mobile hanging from the ceiling with a
>small blimp on one outstretched arm and a plusher prop???
>
>Thanks for the juice... now I don't think I will get much sleep tonight :)
>Timothy...
>>Proposal:
>>
>>How about a solarengine that runs a motor to compress air in a storage
>>tank,
>>and when the pressure is high enough, the valve lets go and the bot gets
>>jet
>>propelled, either on the ground or thourugh the air!! A photovore would
>>work
>>on the same basis, aexcept there would be 2 motors, running 2 air tanks.
>>The
>>cap on the SE would have to be quite big as to run the motor long enough
>>to
>>pump in anough air. The valve to release the air would be let go somehow,
>>not sure how yet, when the SE is finished firing.
>>
>>______________________________________________________
>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

______________________________________________________



8211 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:28:48 GMT [alt-beam] Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got the...* beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Mike Kulesza" Stick those adresses in your email filter...


>From: jester96beam@iname.com
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>Subject: Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got the...*
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:46:55 -0500 (EST)
>
>Disregard that part about me being the only one on iname. When I recieved
>it, it said why are you on INAME now and I didn't realize that it was
>dfferent for everyone else. (i.e on the list it asks why the recipient is
>on sgiblab.sgi)
>ANYWAY, I don't think his e-mail box is full. He's using BS addresses. When
>I recieved it on my other account, his address was different than when it
>was sent to the list, and probably when you guys recieved it on any other
>account. And now, the list has recieved it YET AGAIN, from that usnavy
>address.
>Obviosly someone must have started it, but I think it's running on its own
>now, like a trojan horse (only not)
>
>Chris
>
> ---- you wrote:
> > I think that many other people also sent him emails just like yours and
> > that's why his email box is full. I didn't get any info on him yet but
>I
> > found a great resource on this at
> > http://www.tmisnet.com/~strads/spamhunt/decoding.html#ResourceDetails
> > I hope this helps. Whoever sent that message is just messed up. I
>think it
> > would be better off for everyone to just block him out and forget about
>the
> > incident.
> >
> > -Pete
> > ======================
> > http://members.xoom.com/Star_BEAM/
> >
> > >From: "johannes urke"
> > >Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> > >To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> > >Subject: Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got
>the...*
> > >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:14:24 CET
> > >
> > >nope not that i know about.
> > >i tried to send him a mail saying he`s pretty screwed up but his inbox
>is
> > >full
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Senior
> > >>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> > >>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> > >>Subject: Re: this Beam? *sorry if this is tthe wrong email, i got
>the...*
> > >>Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:56:22 -0700
> > >>
> > >>Anybody know how to get info on this guy? Whois isn't giving me
>anything
> > >>about any of the servers the message went through. Any other tricks?
> > >>This is sick.
> > >>
> > >>Nick.Jenvey@Jenvey.sagehost.co.uk wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > here is the site you wanted... http://sex.interactwithme.com its
>the
> > >>one
> > >>that gives you free membership access (all hacked) to about 300
>membership
> > >>based sex sites.
> > >> > ps: why r u using corp.sgi.com now? it doens't make sence, sorry if
>i
> > >>have the wrong addy, anyway *bye*...
> > >
> > >______________________________________________________
> > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------
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8212 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 11:07:45 -0500 Re: BEAMjet beam@sgiblab.sgi.com owner-beam@sgiblab.sgi.com [mailto:owner-beam@sgiblab.sgi.com]On
A solar photovoric blimp that just hangs in the air all day. Its density
would have to be equal to that of the current atmspheric pressure though for
it to stay at constant altitude.


>From: "Timothy Flytcher"
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>Subject: Re: BEAMjet
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:49:02 PST
>
>Why compressed air??? I have found compressed gas to be very inefficient
>form of energy... I would liken it to a bad spring from which only a small
>return of compression energy is returned...
>
>However!!! you have given me another idea... Has anyone ever built a
>helicopter or airplane that is on one side of a balance so that when the
>solarengine fires it will launch into flight??? I picture a character
>forker
>DR-1 triplane with solar panel upper wings... sitting on a desk ... when
>the
>engine fires it pulls the plane forward around the circle ... wings lifting
>it off the runway... and making three or four turns before slowly stelling
>back down again... OR... maybe a mobile hanging from the ceiling with a
>small blimp on one outstretched arm and a plusher prop???
>
>Thanks for the juice... now I don't think I will get much sleep tonight :)
>Timothy...
>>Proposal:
>>
>>How about a solarengine that runs a motor to compress air in a storage
>>tank,
>>and when the pressure is high enough, the valve lets go and the bot gets
>>jet
>>propelled, either on the ground or thourugh the air!! A photovore would
>>work
>>on the same basis, aexcept there would be 2 motors, running 2 air tanks.
>>The
>>cap on the SE would have to be quite big as to run the motor long enough
>>to
>>pump in anough air. The valve to release the air would be let go somehow,
>>not sure how yet, when the SE is finished firing.
>>
>>______________________________________________________
>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

______________________________________________________



8213 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:41:24 PST [alt-beam] Re: BEAMjet beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Timothy Flytcher" >A solar photovoric blimp that just hangs in the air all day. Its density
>would have to be equal to that of the current atmspheric pressure though
>for
>it to stay at constant altitude.

No sorry, I was thinking far less grandeur... A small model, maybe 3 inches
long, hanging by a string on a wire and counterbalance so that it is free to
rotate around in a circle, about 30 inches in diameter...
I just have a thing for blimps and old aircraft :)
Timothy...



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8214 Sun, 12 Dec 1999 01:04:23 GMT [alt-beam] SPAM beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Mike Kulesza" This is getting real weird - im getting the same messages again, but and
subject line reads either "is this mike kulesza...? or "is this beam...? For
every email i send to the list i also get an email back from some Finnish
ISP saying that the mail couldnt get to "Petterii Soyrinkii"... who ever
that is... i doubt he had anything to do with beam. Therefore it must be
some server that is mailing this message to everybody, and even adjusting
the subject lines correspondingly. The Petteri Soyrinkki thing probably has
somthing to do with the mailing list adress... (i send to to
beam@sgiblab.sgi.com, and it wsays i sent it to this really weird address.

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8215 Sun, 12 Dec 1999 01:17:24 GMT [alt-beam] chloroplast beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Mike Kulesza" So i need to make magbot as a gift for christmas... To make it using the
chloropast SE, all i do is connect the coils to where the motors go, and put
the magnets in? Are there any precautions with respect to a chloroplast
magbot? How fast would it take to charge with a 2422 cell, 2200 uF cap, at
1300 hrs on a clear day in the sun?

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8216 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:07:10 -0500 SPAM Mike Kulesza
> This is getting real weird - im getting the same messages again, but and
> subject line reads either "is this mike kulesza...? or "is this beam...?
For
> every email i send to the list i also get an email back from some Finnish
> ISP saying that the mail couldnt get to "Petterii Soyrinkii"... who ever
> that is... i doubt he had anything to do with beam. Therefore it must be
> some server that is mailing this message to everybody, and even adjusting
> the subject lines correspondingly. The Petteri Soyrinkki thing probably
has
> somthing to do with the mailing list adress... (i send to to
> beam@sgiblab.sgi.com, and it wsays i sent it to this really weird
address.
>
> ______________________________________________________
>


8217 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:49:47 PST [alt-beam] Re: SPAM beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Pete McCarthy" This is very weird, I'm getting it too. I just hope that this robot doesn't
send the BEAM list a new email every day from one of those fake addresses.
I'm not sure that that email means anything. It could be the culprit or
just someone who never checked their email in a very very long time. Does
anyone know who runs this list?? Maybe we can ask him to set up a filter if
this problem persists.

-Pete
======================
http://members.xoom.com/Star_BEAM/

>From: "Jim Taylor"
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: SPAM
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:07:10 -0500
>
>Yeah I'm getting the same message. Mail could not be delivered to pete
>something. Anyone know what this is?
>
>
>
>
>James Taylor
>URL: http://fly.to/springmeadows
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mike Kulesza
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 8:04 PM
>Subject: SPAM
>
>
> > This is getting real weird - im getting the same messages again, but and
> > subject line reads either "is this mike kulesza...? or "is this beam...?
>For
> > every email i send to the list i also get an email back from some
>Finnish
> > ISP saying that the mail couldnt get to "Petterii Soyrinkii"... who ever
> > that is... i doubt he had anything to do with beam. Therefore it must be
> > some server that is mailing this message to everybody, and even
>adjusting
> > the subject lines correspondingly. The Petteri Soyrinkki thing probably
>has
> > somthing to do with the mailing list adress... (i send to to
> > beam@sgiblab.sgi.com, and it wsays i sent it to this really weird
>address.
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>

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8218 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:27:23 -0800 (PST) [alt-beam] Re: BEAMjet beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Travis D." One could use a non-rigid outer shell
(balloon)--therefore making volume and mass constant
relative to atmospheric conditions-->It WOULD stay at
a constant altitude

(Same principle w/ water in non-rigid shells....eg.
the opposite effect of the Galileo thermometer)

--- Mike Kulesza wrote:
> A solar photovoric blimp that just hangs in the air
> all day. Its density
> would have to be equal to that of the current
> atmspheric pressure though for
> it to stay at constant altitude.
>
>
> >From: "Timothy Flytcher"
> >Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >Subject: Re: BEAMjet
> >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:49:02 PST
> >
> >Why compressed air??? I have found compressed gas
> to be very inefficient
> >form of energy... I would liken it to a bad spring
> from which only a small
> >return of compression energy is returned...
> >
> >However!!! you have given me another idea... Has
> anyone ever built a
> >helicopter or airplane that is on one side of a
> balance so that when the
> >solarengine fires it will launch into flight??? I
> picture a character
> >forker
> >DR-1 triplane with solar panel upper wings...
> sitting on a desk ... when
> >the
> >engine fires it pulls the plane forward around the
> circle ... wings lifting
> >it off the runway... and making three or four turns
> before slowly stelling
> >back down again... OR... maybe a mobile hanging
> from the ceiling with a
> >small blimp on one outstretched arm and a plusher
> prop???
> >
> >Thanks for the juice... now I don't think I will
> get much sleep tonight :)
> >Timothy...
> >>Proposal:
> >>
> >>How about a solarengine that runs a motor to
> compress air in a storage
> >>tank,
> >>and when the pressure is high enough, the valve
> lets go and the bot gets
> >>jet
> >>propelled, either on the ground or thourugh the
> air!! A photovore would
> >>work
> >>on the same basis, aexcept there would be 2
> motors, running 2 air tanks.
> >>The
> >>cap on the SE would have to be quite big as to run
> the motor long enough
> >>to
> >>pump in anough air. The valve to release the air
> would be let go somehow,
> >>not sure how yet, when the SE is finished firing.
> >>
>
>>______________________________________________________
> >>Get Your Private, Free Email at
> http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
>______________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free Email at
> http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
______________________________________________________
>


8219 Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:29:38 -0800 (PST) [alt-beam] Re: BEAMjet beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "Travis D."

--- Dennison Bertram wrote:
> You couldn't constantly match the atmspheric
> pressure since it changes
> throughout the day. However this could be your
> advantage. At night or on
> cool day's the blimp would sink, and sink pretty
> dramatically. But on hot
> day's it would rise. Much like thouse galleleo
> thermometers.

the rise within the galileo thermometers is on the
basis of fixed/rigid containers within, making volume
and mass constant. However, if one uses non-rigid
structures, volume and mass can fluctuate in
accordance w/ atmospheric conditions

>The blimp would
> rise and fall depending on the temperature.
>
> dennison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> [mailto:owner-beam@sgiblab.sgi.com]On
> Behalf Of Mike Kulesza
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 10:27 AM
> To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> Subject: Re: BEAMjet
>
>
> A solar photovoric blimp that just hangs in the air
> all day. Its density
> would have to be equal to that of the current
> atmspheric pressure though for
> it to stay at constant altitude.
>
>
> >From: "Timothy Flytcher"
> >Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
> >Subject: Re: BEAMjet
> >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:49:02 PST
> >
> >Why compressed air??? I have found compressed gas
> to be very inefficient
> >form of energy... I would liken it to a bad spring
> from which only a small
> >return of compression energy is returned...
> >
> >However!!! you have given me another idea... Has
> anyone ever built a
> >helicopter or airplane that is on one side of a
> balance so that when the
> >solarengine fires it will launch into flight??? I
> picture a character
> >forker
> >DR-1 triplane with solar panel upper wings...
> sitting on a desk ... when
> >the
> >engine fires it pulls the plane forward around the
> circle ... wings lifting
> >it off the runway... and making three or four turns
> before slowly stelling
> >back down again... OR... maybe a mobile hanging
> from the ceiling with a
> >small blimp on one outstretched arm and a plusher
> prop???
> >
> >Thanks for the juice... now I don't think I will
> get much sleep tonight :)
> >Timothy...
> >>Proposal:
> >>
> >>How about a solarengine that runs a motor to
> compress air in a storage
> >>tank,
> >>and when the pressure is high enough, the valve
> lets go and the bot gets
> >>jet
> >>propelled, either on the ground or thourugh the
> air!! A photovore would
> >>work
> >>on the same basis, aexcept there would be 2
> motors, running 2 air tanks.
> >>The
> >>cap on the SE would have to be quite big as to run
> the motor long enough
> >>to
> >>pump in anough air. The valve to release the air
> would be let go somehow,
> >>not sure how yet, when the SE is finished firing.
> >>
>
>>______________________________________________________
> >>Get Your Private, Free Email at
> http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
>______________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free Email at
> http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
______________________________________________________
>


8220 Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:02:42 CET [alt-beam] Re: chloroplast beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "johannes urke" whaere do you get the parts to make a chloroplast?


>From: "Mike Kulesza"
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>Subject: chloroplast
>Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 01:17:24 GMT
>
>So i need to make magbot as a gift for christmas... To make it using the
>chloropast SE, all i do is connect the coils to where the motors go, and
>put
>the magnets in? Are there any precautions with respect to a chloroplast
>magbot? How fast would it take to charge with a 2422 cell, 2200 uF cap, at
>1300 hrs on a clear day in the sun?
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

______________________________________________________



8221 Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:05:58 CET [alt-beam] Re: SPAM beam@sgiblab.sgi.com "johannes urke" its an automated commercial bot sending us messages and blocking them we
send to it.
just block the adresses sending it and it wont bug you anymore.


>From: "Jim Taylor"
>Reply-To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: SPAM
>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:07:10 -0500
>
>Yeah I'm getting the same message. Mail could not be delivered to pete
>something. Anyone know what this is?
>
>
>
>
>James Taylor
>URL: http://fly.to/springmeadows
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mike Kulesza
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 8:04 PM
>Subject: SPAM
>
>
> > This is getting real weird - im getting the same messages again, but and
> > subject line reads either "is this mike kulesza...? or "is this beam...?
>For
> > every email i send to the list i also get an email back from some
>Finnish
> > ISP saying that the mail couldnt get to "Petterii Soyrinkii"... who ever
> > that is... i doubt he had anything to do with beam. Therefore it must be
> > some server that is mailing this message to everybody, and even
>adjusting
> > the subject lines correspondingly. The Petteri Soyrinkki thing probably
>has
> > somthing to do with the mailing list adress... (i send to to
> > beam@sgiblab.sgi.com, and it wsays i sent it to this really weird
>address.
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>

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8222 Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:43:08 +1300 [alt-beam] Re: BEAMjet beam@corp.sgi.com Justin >However!!! you have given me another idea... Has anyone ever built a
>helicopter or airplane that is on one side of a balance so that when the
>solarengine fires it will launch into flight??? I picture a character forker
>DR-1 triplane with solar panel upper wings... sitting on a desk ... when the
>engine fires it pulls the plane forward around the circle ... wings lifting
>it off the runway... and making three or four turns before slowly stelling
>back down again... OR... maybe a mobile hanging from the ceiling with a
>small blimp on one outstretched arm and a plusher prop???

I just thought I'd be a pratt and mention that I've had one of these
underway for a while. I say this not because I want to take any wind out
of your sails (I wouldn't be working on one if it didn't seem like a
great idea :-), but at my current rate of progress, anything anyone else
attempts will be finished long before mine, and when mine is finished,
I'd like it to sound credible if I claim that I independantly arrived at
the same idea as you, rather than just grabbed it and acted on it :-)
(Not that there is anything wrong with copying - you just get extra
brownie points for coming up with something yourself :-)

Hmmm, there should be a word in the BEAM lexicon for the above message,
so instead of writing all that, I can just say "I'd like to register an
'independant arrival' on that concept", or something...
Or does no-one think like me and you all think I'm strange for posting
this message?

Seeya
Justin



8223 Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:43:05 +1300 [alt-beam] Re: Really dumb question. beam@corp.sgi.com Justin >How do you build an AC generator? I have a thought that I want to keep hush
>hush for now but need to find out how AC generators are built.

Use half a DC generator :)
Generators usually work by either rotating a coil in a magnetic field,
or rotating a magnetic field around a coil. The result of this simple
process is AC, where each cycle of AC corresponds to each 360 degree
turn made by the coil (or field).
This is why there are brushes in a cheap DC motor - as the shaft
rotates, the brushs connect to different pads and invert the power in
the coil, thus you get a constant direction from a constant current.
Spin the shaft yourself and you have a (mostly) DC generator. Take the
brushes out and you have an AC generator. (Except that probably means
rebuilding the motor from scratch :)
A better AC generator would have the magnets on the shaft and the coil
attached to the case. No other components necessary.

Of course, depending on how much AC you want to generate, this info is
probably useless :-)



8224 Sun, 12 Dec 1999 07:04:00 -0500 [alt-beam] Re: BEAMjet "Richard Caudle" > ...there should be a word in the BEAM lexicon for the above message...<


We call that "parallel evolution". :)

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