Alt-BEAM Archive
Message #06908
To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: "Kristopher R. Kane" KrKGL@modempool.com
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:38:29 -0400
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: That safety stuff (was: Stupid mistake)
DOW Chemical, hehe, I live about 100 miles south of the main DOW plant in Michigan.
I hear that town has the highest cancer rate in the U.S.
Bla bla bla
Kris Kane
harsh@lanl.gov wrote:
> There is a gent by the name of Charlie Morecraft who comes and gives a talk
> at the lab about every year. He can convey in an hour, maybe an hour and a half
> what those boring safety lectures is all about. He works for either Dupont or
> Dow Chemical traveling arround the country giving safety talks. If you get the
> chance listen to him.
>
> I used to work for a power company with a lot of former line men. When I lineman
> would get hurt or killed, the question they would ask was what did he do wrong.
> The safety rules were well known know through those boring safety lectures.
> When some one got hurt it wasn't an accident, it was because someone was not
> following procedures. With a solar cell that produces 5 volt at 15MA one can be
> pretty sloppy and get a way with it. But as John said most accidents or stupid
> mistakes are due to not paying attention to what one is doing or breaking a
> rule that is always broken.
>
>
> On 18-Oct-99 John A. deVries II wrote:
> > At 02:24 PM 10/18/99 , Ian Bernstein wrote:
> >
> >>On thing I learned while working at Los Alamos Labs was that every time
> >>you have some kind of accident you have submit what it was you were doing
> >>and what you did to cause the accident.
> > ...
> >>We also had to do a very boring 3 hour General
> >>Employment Training which was mostly safety and then a 2 hour VERY VERY
> >>VERY boring electrical safety thing (a bunch of people fell asleep).
> >
> > On the other hand, as a result of a worker driving a jackhammer through a
> > 20Kv line (I don't think he is dead but I don't think he's ever come out of
> > the coma) and a student sticking his hand into the high-voltage electronics
> > of an industrial microwave oven (fortunately not much damage) and some
> > folks not being told what they were heating which ended up trashing an
> > entire room when the stuff exploded the Lab shut down for something like a
> > week -- even worse than the recent 3 day all-you-can-eat computer security
> > total immersion exercise they gave us because of the Chinese spy stuff.
> >
> > Perhaps the very problem is boredom or its close cousin inattention. For
> > all of you folks who have injured themselves, can you remember what frame
> > of mind you were in just before the damage occurred? I'll bet that it was
> > very generally a complacent lack of concern -- after all, these ghastly
> > stories we are reading are relatively infrequent; nearly all of the time
> > nothing nasty happens. I reckon it is just part of being human to assume
> > that things will just be normal.
> >
> > At this point I won't go into any detail about the time I grabbed for the
> > soldering iron I dropped or fan I didn't know was there that I stuck my
> > finger into or the time my dad dropped an X-ACTO knife right into his thigh
> > or...
> >
> > Just the same, try to be safe no matter how dull it is, ok?
> >
> >
> > Z
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > John A. deVries II
> > zozzles@lanl.gov
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Jim Harsh E-Mail: harsh@lanl.gov
> Los Alamos National Laboratory, MS P940
> Los Alamos, NM 87545
> 505-665-0485, FAX - 505-665-3359
> Date: 19-Oct-99,Time: 07:18:08
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