05968 [alt-beam] Re: success and problems with solarengine

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From: Michael Ciftci cmdr_data15@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:46:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: success and problems with solarengine

I always tend to use the cassette player tape ones in my bots, the vcr
and cdrom motors probably arent working cause they require more energy
than can be provided by a solarengine. that is the only reason i can
come up with as to why they arent working.

mike ciftci

--- emolson@capecod.net wrote:

emolso-@capecod.net wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/alt-beam/?start=5966

One used to work the cassete deck of a VCR... The other used to move
something
Inside of a CDROM drive. Here's a "pic">http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/1396/MOTORS.gif">pic if
that's any help.

>
> what kind of motors are the bad ones?
>
> mike ciftci
> --- emolson@capecod.net wrote:
>
>

> Hi everyone. I'm a beginner at BEAM, and I've just finished my
> first
solarengine (Type 1 with a FLED trigger). It has a few
> problems, tho. I only
have one motor that it works with (it came
> from a cassete player).
With the good motor, the cap powers up to
> about 2.4 volts, then spins the motor
till it gets to about
0.6-0.8
> volts, then resets. With any other motor, it works
for one cycle,
> then 'sticks' at about 0.6 volts, while the motor just hums.
Can
> anyone tell me what's wrong?

> Thanks in advance,

> Eben Olson

> P.S. I've heard some motors have small caps built into them which can
> cause
problems. Could this be the problem?
>
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5969 Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:44:01 -0700 (PDT) [alt-beam] Re: success and problems with solarengine alt-beam@egroups.com Michael Ciftci
Dear Beamers,

does anyone know where i might find a pic online of a completed 4
neuron microcore. I jsut want a picture of it now schematic, free
formed, so i can try and use it as a model. I have been in BEAM for
about 7 a year now and cant seem to figure out how to build a 4 neuron
microcore. call me an idiot, but i just cant seem to get one done.

thanks
mike ciftci
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5970 Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:47:29 -0700 (PDT) [alt-beam] pic of microcore needed alt-beam@egroups.com Michael Ciftci
Dear Beamers,

does anyone know where i might find a pic online of a completed 4
neuron microcore. I jsut want a picture of it now schematic, free
formed, so i can try and use it as a model. I have been in BEAM for
about 7 a year now and cant seem to figure out how to build a 4 neuron
microcore. call me an idiot, but i just cant seem to get one done.

thanks
mike ciftci
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5971 Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:29:41 +0100 [alt-beam] newcomer 4 neuron microicore feedback ?? alt-beam@eGroups.com James G Watt Hi all. First off I'm new to beam robotics and electronics in general
but having seen some beam robots on the tv and the net I thought I'd
have a go.

I've built myself a 4 neuron microcore on a breadboard (and a freeform
version) and I thought it was performing correctly. The microcore uses a
74hc14 and I'm using a 74als245 to drive my motors. It all appears to be
firing correctly except that as far as I can tell there's absolutely NO
feedback changing the behaviour of the microcore what so ever. I was
under the impression that the timing was supposed to vary depending on
the load on the motors? Did I misunderstand something because my circuit
appears to run as regular as a metronome no matter what load is attached
to it?

Anyone know what's up?
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James G Watt

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5972 Mon, 06 Sep 1999 07:57:36 -0700 [alt-beam] Re: success and problems with solarengine alt-beam@eGroups.com emolson@capecod.net emolso-@capecod.net wrote:

I don't really think that's it, because when I start it after
discharging the
cap it works once. It's just that the other motors
don't seem to achieve reset.
Oh well, thanks anyway.

Eben Olson

original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/alt-beam/?start=5968
> I always tend to use the cassette player tape ones in my bots, the vcr
> and cdrom motors probably arent working cause they require more energy
> than can be provided by a solarengine. that is the only reason i can
> come up with as to why they arent working.
>
> mike ciftci
>
> --- emolson@capecod.net wrote:
>
>

> emolso-@capecod.net wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/alt-beam/?start=5966
>

> One used to work the cassete deck of a VCR... The other used to move
> something
Inside of a CDROM drive. Here's a > "pic">http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/1396/MOTORS.gif">pic
if
> that's any help.

> >
> > what kind of motors are the bad ones?
> >
> > mike ciftci
> > --- emolson@capecod.net wrote:
> >
> >

> > Hi everyone. I'm a beginner at BEAM, and I've just finished my
> > first
solarengine (Type 1 with a FLED trigger). It has a few
> > problems, tho. I only
have one motor that it works with (it came
> > from a cassete player).
With the good motor, the cap powers up
to
> > about 2.4 volts, then spins the motor
till it gets to about
> 0.6-0.8
> > volts, then resets. With any other motor, it works
for one
cycle,
> > then 'sticks' at about 0.6 volts, while the motor just hums.
Can
> > anyone tell me what's wrong?

> > Thanks in advance,

> > Eben Olson

> > P.S. I've heard some motors have small caps built into them which
can
> > cause
problems. Could this be the problem?
> >
> >
> >

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