Alt-BEAM Archive

Message #05197



To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: Sean Rigter rigter@cafe.net
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 07:20:33 -0700
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Something funny with the 1382 voltage triggers?


Very interesting Bob,

I look forward to the results

regards

wilf

Bob Shannon wrote:
>
> Steven Bolt wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Bob Shannon wrote:
> >
> > [ Emergent behaviours ]
> >
> > > > The idea is to make such behaviours happen by design rather than
> > > > accident, but I haven't the foggiest how that might be achieved.
> > > > And everybody else appears to be just as much in the dark, so far.
> > >
> > > Actually the criteria for a system to exhibit emergent behaviors is fairly
> > > easy to define. If you study chaos theory, and chaos producing circuits
> > > you will find that as soon as we have 3 (or more) variables in a non-linear
> > > system, chaos is a given and emergent behaviors are produced.
> >
> > I'm aware of that, but afaik it so far doesn't translate to `bots
> > with increased performance, except by accident.
>
> I'm finding otherwise.
>
> The key may be that thinking of Nv's as nerons vastly overestimates the Nv.
> We should not be thinking of a photovore as a 2 neuron 'creature', its
> phototropisim
> is no better than many single celled creatures (that are phototropic in 3D).
>
> What I've done is to use the chaotic control systems in geometric arangements
> that
> match the physical body of the device. By selecting the chaotic attractor and
> geometery
> is fairly simple to get controlled behaviors.
>
> At least with the geometeries I've tested so far, which is very few.
>
> > ---8<---
> > > I have translated some of these principles into a scalable
> > > microcore/bicore array that drives my 'Motion' contest entery.
> > > It works.
> > >
> > > I'll be putting it on-line quite soon.
> >
> > Scalable in what way? You sound almost like Mark T. Papers Real
> > Soon Now :)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Steve
>
> Cheap shot Steve.
>
> Its my contest entery, so I, unlike Mark have a set date for release.
>
> Scalable in that higher ordered physical geometeries (of motive drivers) also
> extend
> the chaotic control circuitry without coherency problems seen in larger Nv
> systems.
>
> But behavioral complexity is not a direct function of scaling the device and
> controller.
> Behavioral complexity is a function of the chaotic attractor and the geometery.
> There are
> a number of things in this design that are at odds with the thinking outlined in
> Living Machines.

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