Alt-BEAM Archive

Message #05059



To: beam@sgiblab.sgi.com
From: Bob Shannon bshannon@tiac.net
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 23:06:06 -0400
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Something funny with the 1382 voltage triggers?


JVernonM@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 7/6/99 1:48:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> chiumanfu@home.com writes:
>
> > On a related side note. I think we should shy away from posting schematics
> > showing the actual chip. Schematics should show the individual inverters
> > and
> > components. Less rectangles, more triangles.
> >
> I disagree. The simpler, more obvious chip and component schematics are
> extremely popular. If you look at what is being built and published online,
> many of them are built from that type of schematic. Why do you think Ian's
> circuit pages are so popular? BEAM is at it's best an entry level hobby.

Its what you make of it really.

If the diagram is in a tutorial, then by all means show the chip diagram.
But if your discussing how the circuit works, or proposing a new circuit,
then it only makes sense to use the schematic representation.

If people cannot figure out how to build the actual (new) circuit from the
schematic, then they can wait for a tutorial. Matching triangles to pin numbers
is not high art.


> If
> you try to turn it into Electronics 101 you are going to exclude the very
> ones you say are coming in at that entry level. One of the coolest things
> about BEAM is a kid can take one of Ian's circuit diagrams and tutorials and
> build a bot right of the bat.

Do you really think that the diagram presents that much of a barrier?
Its no harder than learning to read a map after all.

> No, please lets not crank up the difficulty
> level because we think we are electronics professors. I say make more of
> those types of schematics. Make it so ANYONE no matter their experience
> level, can participate (isn't this one of the planks of the BEAM platform
> anyway). If they wish to pursue a more in depth knowledge, more power to
> them.
> Jim

I propose that if your discussing circuit operation, give the schematic format.
If
its strictly a tutorial, then use the physical representation.

Both diagram formats have their respective advantages for different uses. We may

be trying to introduce electronics to beginners with basically flakey circuits,
but lets not coddel people here.

Only the most popular circuits should be presented in the physical representation
in
my opinion. This way beginners can shuffle around the inverters to better fit
the circuit
into their own creations, and more advanced builders can ponder that much needed
modification or improvement.




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