Alt-BEAM Archive
Message #03531
To: "beam" beam@corp.sgi.com, "Richard Piotter" richfile@rconnect.com
From: "RBCT" bs361972@skynet.be
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:45:36 +0200
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Ya wanna lay off Solarbotics?
You re right richard, we have the same problems here in europe: very few
people know about the Beams. Importing Beams from Canada cost a lot and when
somebody see a Beam for the first time you can imagine!
" Hey man you ll become very rich with that if you have a good business ,
How much is it???" ... Surprise...
And then???
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-----Message d'origine-----
De : Richard Piotter
À : beam
Date : samedi 22 mai 1999 20:28
Objet : Ya wanna lay off Solarbotics?
>I'll just say that even though it ain't that much, I believe he still
>has a commision of some sort to Mark Tilden for using BEAM and he also
>has a family to support. It's his buisness. The cost spent is well equal
>to the hassles of building it all from scratch and finding the parts.
>Has there ever been a find of surplus pager motors that reach the
>quality of solarbotics, much less, a constant source? How many people
>can boast they make their photovores of the thin light weight material
>Dave uses. I personaly have not bought a Solarbotics Walker, cause I'd
>rather get the Hexapod II and modify it and start working on Quadrapod.
>Is it expensive, yeah, is it his choice, yeah, Does he have to make a
>living, yeah, do we have the right to complain, sure we do, do we have
>to buy it... NO!!! If you want to complain, go buy the parts yourself
>and build your own. Design it from scratch and find motors and do all
>that wonderful PCB or freeforming and then build it yourself!
>
>I've only purchased from them once. It was a good expirience! I know
>that It doesn't cost Dodge $80000 to manufacture a Viper. I would love
>one. Am I going to get one??? I highly doubt it. They charge what they
>want to charge. It's expensive, but it's buisness! You realy can't do
>much about it. Dave needs to make something from this buisness. BEAM is
>NOT BIG!!! No one at my colege had heard of BEAM when I arrived! We are
>the minority and Dave has to get money from some where. When BEAM grows,
>his prices may drop, but BEAM isn't big enough. It's a shame Dave
>couldn't market BEAM at Walmart as the "Do-It-Yourself Robot"! If he
>ever pulled that one off, he probably be able to drasticly reduce
>prices. Unfortunately, I don't see something like that realy taking off,
>considering the tools required (remember the wave of posts about no lead
>solder cause parents were concerned)?
>
>Lee Golden wrote:
>>
>> I don't usually pipe up on the list, but don't forget:
>>
>> 1) Dave has a right to charge whatever he wants for his kits
>> 2) We have the right to build our own and not buy them if they're too
>> expensive, and
>> 3) Dave *encourages* people to try things themselves, and even helps
people
>> who are developing their own versions of things he sells. Not many
business
>> people would do that...
>>
>> Lee Golden
>> Olney, MD USA
>>
>> "There's a fine line between a hobby and mental illness." - Dave Barry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-beam@corp.sgi.com [mailto:owner-beam@corp.sgi.com]On Behalf
>> Of JVernonM@aol.com
>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 1999 6:37 AM
>> To: beam@corp.sgi.com
>> Subject: Retraction
>>
>> I wrote:
>> perhaps I'm mistaken, and the heads your producing will be your own
design
>> and not yet another Tilden clone.
>>
>> I take that one back. Your designs are yours and are unique. They are
>> heavily
>> buttered with Tilden like techniques, which make them very similar in
>> design.
>> Actually, more of an original design made to look like a Tilden clone, I
>> guess.
>> I stand by the rest.
>> Jim
>
>--
>
>
>Richard Piotter
>richfile@rconnect.com
>
>The Richfiles Robotics & TI web page:
>http://richfiles.calc.org
>
>For the BEAM Robotics list:
>BEAM Robotics Tek FAQ
>http://people.ne.mediaone.net/bushbo/beam/FAQ.html
>
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