Alt-BEAM Archive

Message #03525



To: JVernonM@aol.com, sbolt@xs4all.nl
From: Dave Hrynkiw dave@solarbotics.com
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:13:08 -0600
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Evolution Comparison


At 03:10 AM 5/22/1999 , JVernonM@aol.com wrote:


>You argued once that the popper SHOULD be more than
>Craig's Cybug because of quality. I don't buy it. The components of the two
>kits alone make the Cybug cost more to produce..

I don't recall seeing Craig post his cost list and I know I haven't posted
mine. IMHO, the Cybug is DEFINITELY cheaper to produce. And I can tell you
that we DEFINITELY don't make 300~400% margins on the SW1. It's a
low-production run kit, and that costs us. Period. Besides, with all the
info on the net on how to build a 2 motor walker, I'd rather inspire
newbies to construct their own and learn more than by us spoon-feeding it
to them as part of the kit.

> Your not selling kits, your marketing Tildenesque.

Ummm.. No argument there. He's done the bulk of the conceptual R&D on our
kits, and he gets royalties because of it.

>Or, perhaps I'm mistaken, and the heads your producing will be your own
>design and not yet another Tilden clone.

A conglomeration of BEAM concepts, but not directly a Tilden clone.

> As for the educational aspect, don't
>you think more bright minds could be educated if the kits were more inline
>with the idea of affordability as well as quality?

Come to me with volume pricing requests, and we'll give it the same
discounts we offer everywhere else.



Yes, some of our stuff is admittedly considerably more expensive than
sourcing it yourselves elsewhere. We've never discouraged getting it
yourselves, and even pointed educators & the like to the appropriate
resources so they don't have to pay our overhead. You don't like the price
- we won't complain if you get it elsewhere.

Other items you simply won't find unless if you want to front thousands of
dollars to get to the volume discount, and that is worth something.

>And keep
>your personal attacks off the list, I'm tired of hearing them.

I take it you mean attacks in a general sort of way, and not just me
personally, yes?

Regards,
Dave
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