Alt-BEAM Archive
Message #03446
To: "Noam Rudnick" rudnick1@cwix.com
From: "Nigel Joyce" nigel.joyce@qr.com.au
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:23:22 +1000
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Evolution Comparison
Exactly so, and why? because humans work as a TEAM, the process would
take 10 million times as long if only 1 person was doing it.
Blue Skies
---Buzz---
> According to Hans Moravec, robot evolution is going approximately 10
> million times faster than biological evolution did. Therefore, he
predicts
> that within fifty years or so, we will have made an artificial human.
>
> Just a little fact I thought might be interesting...
>
> Noam
>
> ----------
> From: Nigel Joyce
> To: BEAM Mail
> Subject: Evolution Comparison
> Date: Thursday, May 20, 1999 12:33 AM
>
> Hey Guys and Gals, (Do we have any girls on this list?)
> I was just thinking of an interesting parallel, Religion
> aside, it took God millions of years to "develop" us, and when we play
God
> and develop ALife, if there was just 1 of us, having to develop
> electricity,electronics,computers,components, etc. it would probably take
a
> few million years as well. BUT, working as a collective (watch those borg
> terms) It has taken humans what 50-100 years to discover and develop to
> the stage we are at now. Take a macro view and the human race is just a
> very big hive with the Cities as our nests and Countries as our Hives, we
> have the infighting between different hives ie. Wars, the unproductive
> drones ie. Those who are too lazy to work, the "Queens", ie. the leaders
of
> our respective countries. And regardless of how you look at it, in
> working for ourselves, we are working to better the "Hive". Plumbers,
when
> they fix a drip in your tap, are improving the Water infrastructure of the
> Hive, Farmers are just like advanced hunter/gatherers of the insect
world,
> Technology people are working to extend the hive, Space Exploration,
which
> alot of our fun sort of leads towards, is an attempt to extend our hives
> boundaries, if we could, would we not go off and colonise another world,
> just like a bee swarm? The comparison I am trying to make is between a
> "hive" of humans being more effective than just 1 human or even God, and a
> hive of bots being more effective than one complex bot, which is where
the
> micro/nano bot research is headed.
> Sort of removes your individuality to think of yourself as part of the
> human hive or collective, doesn't it.
> You can draw further comparisons between the lifespan and achievements of
> individuals in the insect world compared to the lifespan and achievements
> of the hive, then compare that to the human hive, your achievements and
> the achievements of humans as a whole. Scary isn't it. I mean, as we go
> about our daily lives, we swear to ourselves that we are not working for
> the good of the human race, but are working for ourselves, ever heard the
> expression "productive member of the community". I wonder if bees and
ants
> act as individuals, may be even see themselves as individuals (this is
> probably reaching) and are only going about their daily lives with no
> thought to the "Good of the hive".
>
> OK, Ok, time for me to come back to reality for a while, (and get back to
> work, "for the good of the hive" };-) )
> Cya's later
> &
> Blue Skies
> ---Buzz---
> Home is where you hang your @
>
>
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