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To: beam beam@corp.sgi.com
From: Richard Piotter richfile@rconnect.com
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 22:46:43 -0500
Subject: [alt-beam] Re: Multiple Inputs for Nv neurons


When making more complex Nv/Nu nets, things get a lot tougher. You have
to consider saturation though. If they are not tuned properly, a few
bits of stimuli will put the thing into saturation easily. I believe
Tilden implied that Lobster suffered from this problem in a message he
sent a while back. If you do make large networks with interconnecting
"web like" loops, then be prepared to tune the thing, and be prepared to
spend time on it. A good summer project??? Maybe??? I'd like to see some
new Nv setups.

George Rix wrote:
>
> > Also, they need a form of regenerative feedback, or all the processes
> > simply end. The loop does that. THe thing that you may miss in a web
> > like Nv, is that there are many, multiple loops made up by all the webs.
> > You couldn't begin to count the massive loops in the human brain!!!
> > That's quite the daunting task to do in even an earth work or cockroach
> > even! Loops seem to be the best Central Pattern Generator,a nd they can
> > branch off into chains, rejoin, form other loops and do countless
> > amazing things. Unfortunately, BEAM is in it's infancy, and neural
> > network based robots are well less than 100 years old (despite the fact
> > that the neural net was essentialy one of the first "control" devices,
> > created by nature itself!). Neural nets have had a while to develop, and
> > we are only trying to begin to catch up!
> What I'm planning on doing is having the neurons arranged in an upside down
> triangle, with the one at the bottom point being the first to go. From there
> they expand, with some interesting interconnections I've been planning
> (okay, anyone could do them, but they're still interesting) and at the end,
> loop back to number one. THAT's what I meant.
> In the twelve neuron robot I'm planning, there should be some48 loops (I
> think, though I'm not sure. There are likely many more, but I got bored of
> counting =)
> Signing off,
> Rob Rix
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Richard Piotter
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